Comments on: Paying income tax in America is Voluntary

By: witegetobro

witegetobro — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:17:33 +0000

is that guy fuckin stupid, or does he just not realize that imprisonment is force???

By: emncaity

emncaity — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:43:30 +0000

For God’s sake. Yeah, the other side did so well with the economy and everything else. The Dow has been headed downward since October 2007. Look it up anytime you want, ‘tard.

By: lesatseaside

lesatseaside — Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:05:31 +0000

hey emncaity :
Look up who was in charge of the comittees in the Senate and Congress over the last 3 years:
Barnie Frank, Chris Dodd, and a host of other DEMOCRATS were chairmen of the various regulatory and oversight comittees.

Furthermore, the banking regulations were loosened up during the CLINTON administration, and it was Barney Franks *** lover, along with Obama’s buddies at Fannie May (CEO Franklin Reins) who started this banking mess.

-look it up “Tard”

By: emncaity

emncaity — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:07:23 +0000

…which is exactly why I’ve always said Clinton is Republican Lite, as are too many Democrats. You’re making my case better than I did: Regulation of the industry–in other words, NOT the Republican “government IS the problem” philosophy–is what keeps these disasters from happening.

Feel free to make your case that the best friends of the banking and finance industry are NOT the Republicans anytime you want to. But it is also true that too many Democrats are right there with them.

By: emncaity

emncaity — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:57:24 +0000

As for the myth that what “started this banking mess” was Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, as if that could explain the entire collapse, go peddle it on Fox News or the Limbaugh show or somewhere else where they eat that bullshit up.

And by the way, when exactly did that unitary executive of the Republicans suddenly become powerless to stop what was going on in Congress? A simple date will do, ‘tard.

By: emncaity

emncaity — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:35:38 +0000

Yeah, Reid’s statement is obviously laughable. I guess you could make the roundabout case that income tax is “voluntary” in the sense that we elect representatives who set it–that is, it’s not a king who arbitrarily sets the rate and forces payment. In a way, we vote indirectly for it. But in the plainest meaning, once it’s set, obviously it’s not voluntary.

By: emncaity

emncaity — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:56:58 +0000

I don’t know why Reid would struggle over a point like this, instead of just saying, “Yeah, some things are for the good of the community and the nation, we have to pay for them, and so people have to pay a certain amount in taxes. We couldn’t fund interstate highways or national defense or anything else if we didn’t have the power to do that. What’s your point?”

By: emncaity

emncaity — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:10:17 +0000

…Instead, he goes on this ridiculous series of atomic-level parsing exercises. He drives me nuts about three times a week, I swear. The guy really does have some good points both personally and professionally, despite the relentless beating from the right, but being Senate majority leader ain’t one of ‘em.

By: lesatseaside

lesatseaside — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 02:38:07 +0000

emncaity :
Read the following statement on the congressional record, by Barney Frank:

“These two entities—Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.

“The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

By: emncaity

emncaity — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:42:52 +0000

Right. So, if you’re right in saying or implying that Frank and the Democrats were 100% responsible, that explains Fannie and Freddie. How about the rest of it?

And how about the absolute _legions_ of “conservative” (ha) commentators who, for the past several years, have been insisting that stocks were not overvalued, that financial institutions were just fine, etc.? The same ones who seemed not to know about the scam of credit default swaps–hardly a Democratic invention?