How the hell did Harry Reid get this far in life? He is an idiot. I don’t give a crap what other countries do, I care about what happens to my money in the USA. GOD HELP US
your lucky in a way….. here in Europe our income tax is automaticaly drawn monthly from our pay…. +retirement +social contributions… so in fact when your mothly pay amounts to ….let’s say 1000 eur you acctually get only 500-600 eur… and our income tax is cemented in law and is in no way volentary…. just by reading your American constitution you can see clearly that any type of tax resembling the type mentioned above is UNCONSTITUTIONAL… so a question arises…. WHY PAY IT?
Thank You Mr. Bush….Thank you for your service. I have but one favor to ask of you Mr. Bush: would you please come back now? We, the American people, have made a mistake. Yes, have have elected some clown to hold our highest office. Mr. Obama tries hard, i suppose, but he is already a complete failure. Please Mr. Bush, come back now, OK? We need a real man in office again. Thank You Mr. Bush.
The word “you” does not exist in the Internal Revenue Code. The word “your” appears 8 times, all having to do with tobacco.
the word “you” appears in the 1040 instruction book no less than 1152 times and the words “you” and “your” totaled together appear 2926 times! This is called mind conditioning without effecting the constitutionality of the tax code which is totally constitutional because the tax imposed in title 26 USC subtitle A income tax is a tax on foreign commerce.
It’s an excellent documentary that explains the *fraud* very effectively.
People need to stop living in fear of their own government. The Supreme Court has already decided that the Sixteenth Amendment gives the government no new powers of taxation.
When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty.
Also also: Which party was in charge when Frank made that statement and opposed the legislation that would have reorganized oversight? (Hint: It was 2005. Does that help?) So Republicans could have done anything they wanted to that year, couldn’t they? Why didn’t they?
Probably you’re also aware of the fact that this was one of the rare and notable examples when GOP legislators wanted to regulate _more_–when it came to a program that benefitted mostly poor and minority citizens.
Also: Are you going to go ahead and make the case that it is _not_ Republicans who have been at the forefront of deregulating financial and other industries (going back about as far as you want, but with particular intensity since Reagan and his myth)?
And are you going to claim that the industries that have benefitted most from the bailouts do _not_ overwhelmingly support Republicans or “pro-business” (anti-regulatory) Democrats?
Right. So, if you’re right in saying or implying that Frank and the Democrats were 100% responsible, that explains Fannie and Freddie. How about the rest of it?
And how about the absolute _legions_ of “conservative” (ha) commentators who, for the past several years, have been insisting that stocks were not overvalued, that financial institutions were just fine, etc.? The same ones who seemed not to know about the scam of credit default swaps–hardly a Democratic invention?
emncaity :
Read the following statement on the congressional record, by Barney Frank:
“These two entities—Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.
“The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
…Instead, he goes on this ridiculous series of atomic-level parsing exercises. He drives me nuts about three times a week, I swear. The guy really does have some good points both personally and professionally, despite the relentless beating from the right, but being Senate majority leader ain’t one of ‘em.
I don’t know why Reid would struggle over a point like this, instead of just saying, “Yeah, some things are for the good of the community and the nation, we have to pay for them, and so people have to pay a certain amount in taxes. We couldn’t fund interstate highways or national defense or anything else if we didn’t have the power to do that. What’s your point?”
Yeah, Reid’s statement is obviously laughable. I guess you could make the roundabout case that income tax is “voluntary” in the sense that we elect representatives who set it–that is, it’s not a king who arbitrarily sets the rate and forces payment. In a way, we vote indirectly for it. But in the plainest meaning, once it’s set, obviously it’s not voluntary.
As for the myth that what “started this banking mess” was Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, as if that could explain the entire collapse, go peddle it on Fox News or the Limbaugh show or somewhere else where they eat that bullshit up.
And by the way, when exactly did that unitary executive of the Republicans suddenly become powerless to stop what was going on in Congress? A simple date will do, ‘tard.
…which is exactly why I’ve always said Clinton is Republican Lite, as are too many Democrats. You’re making my case better than I did: Regulation of the industry–in other words, NOT the Republican “government IS the problem” philosophy–is what keeps these disasters from happening.
Feel free to make your case that the best friends of the banking and finance industry are NOT the Republicans anytime you want to. But it is also true that too many Democrats are right there with them.
hey emncaity :
Look up who was in charge of the comittees in the Senate and Congress over the last 3 years:
Barnie Frank, Chris Dodd, and a host of other DEMOCRATS were chairmen of the various regulatory and oversight comittees.
Furthermore, the banking regulations were loosened up during the CLINTON administration, and it was Barney Franks *** lover, along with Obama’s buddies at Fannie May (CEO Franklin Reins) who started this banking mess.
For God’s sake. Yeah, the other side did so well with the economy and everything else. The Dow has been headed downward since October 2007. Look it up anytime you want, ‘tard.
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Folks… Harry Reid is NOT stupid and is NOT an idiot
He is the raw face of tyranny, Americans should have purged him and the others like him a long time ago
The Virginia state motto is “Sic Semper Tyrannus” loosely translated is
DEATH TO TYRANTS
I really really dislike harry reid. Who put that idiot in office?
Sounds like Harry has gone to the Bill Clinton “What is the Defiintion of Is” school of terminology….
How the hell did Harry Reid get this far in life? He is an idiot. I don’t give a crap what other countries do, I care about what happens to my money in the USA. GOD HELP US
It is Voluntary.You just volunteer to go to jail if you don’t pay.LOL!
your lucky in a way….. here in Europe our income tax is automaticaly drawn monthly from our pay…. +retirement +social contributions… so in fact when your mothly pay amounts to ….let’s say 1000 eur you acctually get only 500-600 eur… and our income tax is cemented in law and is in no way volentary…. just by reading your American constitution you can see clearly that any type of tax resembling the type mentioned above is UNCONSTITUTIONAL… so a question arises…. WHY PAY IT?
Thank You Mr. Bush….Thank you for your service. I have but one favor to ask of you Mr. Bush: would you please come back now? We, the American people, have made a mistake. Yes, have have elected some clown to hold our highest office. Mr. Obama tries hard, i suppose, but he is already a complete failure. Please Mr. Bush, come back now, OK? We need a real man in office again. Thank You Mr. Bush.
The word “you” does not exist in the Internal Revenue Code. The word “your” appears 8 times, all having to do with tobacco.
the word “you” appears in the 1040 instruction book no less than 1152 times and the words “you” and “your” totaled together appear 2926 times! This is called mind conditioning without effecting the constitutionality of the tax code which is totally constitutional because the tax imposed in title 26 USC subtitle A income tax is a tax on foreign commerce.
World’s stupidest politician, Harry Reid.
Robbin da Hood for the higher good.
Repeal the income tax!
The income tax is patently unconstitutional.
See “Larkin Rose” – “Theft by Deception”.
It’s an excellent documentary that explains the *fraud* very effectively.
People need to stop living in fear of their own government. The Supreme Court has already decided that the Sixteenth Amendment gives the government no new powers of taxation.
When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson
i refer to articles 31 and 32 of the united states constitution for my rights on taxation I regress
no taxation without representation
Wait till summer when all our voluntary taxes run out from obamas spending and congress The watts riots will look like a clam bake
Also also: Which party was in charge when Frank made that statement and opposed the legislation that would have reorganized oversight? (Hint: It was 2005. Does that help?) So Republicans could have done anything they wanted to that year, couldn’t they? Why didn’t they?
Probably you’re also aware of the fact that this was one of the rare and notable examples when GOP legislators wanted to regulate _more_–when it came to a program that benefitted mostly poor and minority citizens.
Also: Are you going to go ahead and make the case that it is _not_ Republicans who have been at the forefront of deregulating financial and other industries (going back about as far as you want, but with particular intensity since Reagan and his myth)?
And are you going to claim that the industries that have benefitted most from the bailouts do _not_ overwhelmingly support Republicans or “pro-business” (anti-regulatory) Democrats?
Right. So, if you’re right in saying or implying that Frank and the Democrats were 100% responsible, that explains Fannie and Freddie. How about the rest of it?
And how about the absolute _legions_ of “conservative” (ha) commentators who, for the past several years, have been insisting that stocks were not overvalued, that financial institutions were just fine, etc.? The same ones who seemed not to know about the scam of credit default swaps–hardly a Democratic invention?
emncaity :
Read the following statement on the congressional record, by Barney Frank:
“These two entities—Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.
“The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
…Instead, he goes on this ridiculous series of atomic-level parsing exercises. He drives me nuts about three times a week, I swear. The guy really does have some good points both personally and professionally, despite the relentless beating from the right, but being Senate majority leader ain’t one of ‘em.
I don’t know why Reid would struggle over a point like this, instead of just saying, “Yeah, some things are for the good of the community and the nation, we have to pay for them, and so people have to pay a certain amount in taxes. We couldn’t fund interstate highways or national defense or anything else if we didn’t have the power to do that. What’s your point?”
Yeah, Reid’s statement is obviously laughable. I guess you could make the roundabout case that income tax is “voluntary” in the sense that we elect representatives who set it–that is, it’s not a king who arbitrarily sets the rate and forces payment. In a way, we vote indirectly for it. But in the plainest meaning, once it’s set, obviously it’s not voluntary.
As for the myth that what “started this banking mess” was Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, as if that could explain the entire collapse, go peddle it on Fox News or the Limbaugh show or somewhere else where they eat that bullshit up.
And by the way, when exactly did that unitary executive of the Republicans suddenly become powerless to stop what was going on in Congress? A simple date will do, ‘tard.
…which is exactly why I’ve always said Clinton is Republican Lite, as are too many Democrats. You’re making my case better than I did: Regulation of the industry–in other words, NOT the Republican “government IS the problem” philosophy–is what keeps these disasters from happening.
Feel free to make your case that the best friends of the banking and finance industry are NOT the Republicans anytime you want to. But it is also true that too many Democrats are right there with them.
hey emncaity :
Look up who was in charge of the comittees in the Senate and Congress over the last 3 years:
Barnie Frank, Chris Dodd, and a host of other DEMOCRATS were chairmen of the various regulatory and oversight comittees.
Furthermore, the banking regulations were loosened up during the CLINTON administration, and it was Barney Franks *** lover, along with Obama’s buddies at Fannie May (CEO Franklin Reins) who started this banking mess.
-look it up “Tard”
For God’s sake. Yeah, the other side did so well with the economy and everything else. The Dow has been headed downward since October 2007. Look it up anytime you want, ‘tard.
is that guy fuckin stupid, or does he just not realize that imprisonment is force???